Comments on: بريطانيا | شعور بالحرية عندما تكونى عارية!!

By: Nada

Nada — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:12:46 +0000

It is a choice, so if they feel free naked than that is their bloody choice. I think we Arab should stop Judging People and live and let live

By: bara'a torkmani

bara'a torkmani — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:51:35 +0000

thanks alot sara about this fantaftic article which is clarify what is the islam & how get the muslim women all respect & liberated ..
done well sara .. i hope to you sucess in all directions of your life ..

By: dasayy

dasayy — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:25:45 +0000

The Quran protects us from Western diseases ( sex, drug, alcohol, materialism and consumerism, dysfunctional family, pornography, homosexuality, mental illness (depression and anxiety) and suicidal thoughts

By: Adam x Eve

Adam x Eve — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:59:32 +0000

One final comment for rabbit.Hijab (I am not referring to the veil where you cover your face ) was one of the good customs that were addressed by Islam (and became prescribed in the Quran very clearly ) in order to preserve women unique status by preserving her modesty.Whether you want to wear it or not it is up to you but please do not mix things up by saying that Hijab takes you back to the bronze age (does this mean that becoming naked makes you more civilised??!), If that is the case, why don't you take the initiative and do the same thing and tell me then how liberated you feel when you become undressed??!.

By: Adam x Eve

Adam x Eve — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:59:01 +0000

It is not logic to find among the Quran (which is the words of God ) verses giving women status and others encouraging to beat them at the same time.I come from a linguistic background where i can assure you that the meaning mentioned in the ward (daraba) does not mean the savaged physical harm you referred to previously.In Arabic language, as you might already know, you can use the same word for different meanings, so if you do not know this fact already, i advice you to read again what scholars wrote in their explanation for this word especially in this verse (and please do not read for amatours or orientalists who have no idea about the knowledge of Quran explanation).

By: Adam x Eve

Adam x Eve — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:58:10 +0000

This is a note to rabbit.For your information, when Islam came ,it gave women status when they had no rights whatsoever at that time (they used to be sold like slaves,beaten like animals, buried at young age because of fear of shame and had no rights in any will) .Islam condemned all these actions and on the contrary it equalised between men and women and gave the women their rights and status and did not at any time encourage the beating of women (this is a misunderstaning of the text by many people including yourself i am afraid).The problem is not in the Quran but in the way you want to understand its verses to suit what you believe in.

By: Adam x Eve

Adam x Eve — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:31:00 +0000

I agree with steph about the fact that children are becoming shy when they are undressed clearly because they act by nature and their minds are yet not infected by how the so called role models like actors or models look or dress like or even undress like.

I totally agree with Sara.to be more honest,i live in the western world and still can not understand how walking naked makes you feel liberated (liberated from what?! is modesty on the contrary becoming like a cage that needs to be broken and liberated from?).You can see yourself how the senior or eldrly people feel disgusted when they see half naked women walking in the street.

I think that people s' values are getting poisoned with the media , fasion and size zero obsession i am afraid because they all simply focus on one thing which is the way you look. Furthermore, things which were taboos previously in the past are becoming very normal these days like walking naked which i personally feel is degrading more than liberating because it presents the woman as a sale item,for example: look at any man staring at naked women talking for example and you will clearly see what he is interested in (the talk or the body).

By: rabbit

rabbit — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:19:20 +0000

Why don't you offer your interpretation of the verse which refers to the beating of women? Why is it that Muslims always refer to the proper "tafseer" and proper "way of understanding the Qu'ran" without actually specifying what the proper way is?

By: rabbit

rabbit — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:14:59 +0000

Though this is not the main topic of this discussion, I am really interested in your interpretation of the word "yadrib" in this contest. This is the first time I hear the argument from a Mulsim woman. If what is meant by "yadrib" is indeed a gentle stroke such as in the tapping of a keyboard, then is this supposed to be a way of disciplining women? How can a feminist accept being disciplined by a man, weather the act involves physical harm or just gentle stroking?

By: Sara

Sara — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:21:31 +0000

I agree with your first point. The issue of how you feel about your body and the Hijab is unrelated and not our discussion here.
However, as for your second claim, there are very clear verses in the Quran which yes make the Hijab obligatory on all Muslim women. At the end of the day, we have the choice to cover or not, but to be fair to the Quran, the obligation of the Hijab is very clear in the Quranic verse (Qur’an 24:31).

By: Sara

Sara — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:15:25 +0000

I totally agree with Peace: Of course Islam does not encourage the beating of women!!!; this is a western/ orientalist understanding of the Quran which reflects lack of understanding of the Quranic text. As this is not the issue here i will just give one comment on this: If you are familiar with the Arabic language, you will be aware that "tapping on the keyboard" is referred to in Arabic with the same word you quoted in your blog- ‘yadrib’. So if you apply your understanding of the word 'daraba' here, then you are referring to the smashing of the keyboard which is clearly nonsense!!!!
I can understand the feminist approach and understanding of the Quran, but we can’t interpret the Quran in the way we wish.
On the second issue, some religious practices may have had cultural origins. But again although modesty may have existed to a certain degree before the rise of Islam, however, when Islam prescribed the Hijab, it became a religious practice.